WEB SITE: http://www.qsl.net/miarc††††††† e-mail: miarc@yahoogroups.com



A short note from the PrezÖÖÖ..


First of all, I apologize for the paper not getting out 30 days prior to the September meeting; this was not the fault of our editor, who by the way has done a terrific job the past two years. We did not have a meeting place locked in.


In June, we attempted to hold a meeting at the IRA Hamfest in Hudsonville, but unfortunately, we did not have a quorum for the board, therefore we could not hold an official meeting. One topic that was brought up that we take a look at the band plan for 902-928 MHz, which we will bring up at this meeting.


The September meeting will be our Annual meeting in Lansing, at the Delta Twp. Fire Department on the 8th, due to the Labor Day weekend being the first weekend. At this meeting, there will be elections for the office of President, Secretary, and a Director position. Elsewhere in the newsletter, you will find a ballot that you may use if you are unable to attend the meeting. This ballot must reach the P.O. Box no later then Saturday the 7th in order to counted. Please mark BALLOT on the envelope. Nominations will be opened at the meeting preceding the election. Nominations will be opened up at the meeting. Anyone wishing to vote must have his or her dues in 24 hours prior to the election.


At this time, we do not have a location for the December meeting. Directions will be in the newsletter, or log on to MARCís website following the September meeting.


This newsletter is the last for our current editor, Charmaine. I would like to thank her for a job well done. So, this means we will need a new editor for the December newsletter. If you would like to volunteer, please contact me, please!


If anyone has any questions, you can reach the Board via of the website, or my phone number is 586-465-7126. For those of making the meeting on the September 8th, Iíll see you there.




Dennis, W8DFG



Treasurerís Report


Hello All:

On hand in checking as of 7/30/02 $708.75

On hand is savings as of 7/30/02†† $4502.11

Total††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† †††$5210.86


Kelly KB8RWG



Database Manager / Webmasterís Corner


Activity during the past quarter has increased quite a bit.I produced one update of the web site Meetings and Newsletter pages.I hope to update the Repeater Directory again before the September annual meeting.I have been working on a data file to distribute to adjacent state frequency coordinators.The object is to bring their information about Michiganís lower peninsula repeaters up-to-date and to validate MARC database changes since I took over the responsibility for maintaining the database two years ago September.


Adjacent state coordinators and the NFCC have the perception that MARC has been coordinating repeaters, (and we all know that isnít so), without following adjacent state notification practices required by membership in the NFCC.The vast majority of changes in the past two years are repeater call sign changes.I just found out that our previous database manager, N8UT, had been periodically sharing the MARC database with adjacent coordinating bodies.Not being aware of this practice, I have not sent out any data in the past two years.That leaves their only source of data- the MARC Repeater Directory.Since we do not publish repeater coordinates they have no way of knowing that a repeater call sign change or a minor change in coordinates is not a new coordination.I hope to have the data file with explanations for each change sent out by the middle of August to put this issue to bed.


The file I send out will compare every repeater in the current MARC database to the repeaters listed in the 09/13/00 database that I received from N8UT.†† The data will be distributed to the MARC Board for their review before I send it out.This issue came to a head recently when I found out on July 23rd that Wisconsin refused to respond to a number of NOPCís (notifications of pending changes) that Wallace Murray, KE8HR had sent out in June and July for pending coordinations.These coordinations cannot be completed until they clear adjacent states.


I have been reviewing the Coordinatorís Toolkit software distributed by Dave Karr, KA9FUR,

Frequency Coordinator for Wisconsin Association of Repeaters.If MARC decides to use this software, MARC will have to acquire MS Access 2000 so I can reconfigure tables used by the software to fit Michiganís band plan, frequency pairs, separation, etc.


I have built a program to compute the distance between repeaters in MARCís database and a specific set of coordinates, to aid in locating potential frequency pairs for new coordination requests.The program helps to insure pairs are within MARCís co channel / adjacent channel separation limits.


I have processed 22 renewal TDSís since the last newsletter in May.I currently have 13 renewal TDSís in processing that were submitted between July 28th and July 31st.


Iíve logged 80 hours on MARC activities since May 12th

Dave Johnson, WD8DJB


Marc Board of Directors



Dennis Gaboury


P.O. Box 463148

Mt. Clemens, MI 48046

Vice President

Jim Maike



977 E. 8th St.†† Box 27

White Cloud, MI49349


Ron Huber


7135 Bradley Rd.

Saginaw, MI 48601


Kelly F. Karpp


PO Box 127

Oscoda, MI48750


Ron Gordon


7172 Sharp Rd.

Swartz Creek, MI48473


Bill Kelly


17158 Hans Dr.

Fraser, MI 48026




Wallace Murray


1403 S. Hill Rd.

Milford, MI 48381

Database Manager

Dave Johnson


2266 E. Vermontville Hwy

Charlotte, MI 48813



Member ship Form

Name: ___________________________Call Sign: _______________________

Address: __________________________________________

City: _____________________ State: _____________ Zip: _______________ Email: ________________________________

Day Phone: (___)________________Night Phone: (___)___________________

Club or Repeater Affiliation: ________________________________________

Check One [] Full Member ($10)†† [] Associate Member ($5)

Newsletter Delivery [] Email or [] U.S. Mail.


Make checks out to MARC Inc.

Send to Kelly F. Karpp, KB8RWG, PO Box 127, Oscoda, MI48750

Please remember to include Call sign and Year Paying for on Check


Please inform us of all changes in mail or e-mail address, area code, or telephone number



The Next meeting is September 8, 2002 meeting at 1pm.


At the Delta Township Fire Station

7614 W. Saginaw HWY

Lansing, MI



Take I-96 to M43 exit 93, go east one block to Canal Rd.

The Fire Station is on the Northwest corner of W. Saginaw Hwy and Canal Rd.


We have been asked to park on the south side of the building (W. Saginaw Hwy)

Due to construction.



Absentee Ballot

8 Sept 02




Dennis Gaboury W8DFG†††††††† ††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† _______


Mark Scholten AB8MS††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† _______

















Must be received by September 7,2002 at

MARC Inc. at


P.O.Box 463148

Mt. Clemens, MI 48046



Proposed By-Law Changes

August 14, 2002

ARTICLE I - Name & Purpose


1.) Coordinate the allocation of frequencies for use by repeaters, and remote receive link's in the Lower Peninsula of the State of Michigan where requested.

6.) Publish a quarterly newsletter to be electronically mailed to all members, all coordinated repeater trustees, all Great Lakes area coordinators, and the ARRL Section Manager for the State of Michigan. Also mailed via USPS to all current members when requested, listing information which may be of concern to them, such as: new repeaters coordinated during the previous quarter; disputes or interference problems which are currently known; and the date, time, and place of the next meeting of the MARC.

ARTICLE II - Membership and Dues

2.) Full Member. A Full Member shall be a repeater owner and/or trustee, and have all of the rights and privileges of membership including voting and holding office.

3.) Supporting Member. A Supporting Member shall have all of the rights and privileges of membership except voting and holding office. This membership is open to all Amateur Radio Operators and Amateur Radio Organizations.


A. The officers of the MARC shall be

1.) President

2.) Vice President

3.) Secretary

4.) Treasurer

5.) Two (2) Directors

6.) Coordinator(s)no more than two.

7.) Database Manager

8.) Immediate Past President

4.) Treasurer. The Treasurer shall maintain records of Full Members, Supporting Members (delete, and Associates), maintain the financial records, collect dues, disburse all Moines, file all reports and returns as may from time to time be required by various governmental agencies, and perform such other duties as are customarily associated with the title of Treasurer.

5.) Directors. Each Director shall be assigned by the President to oversee, verify, and assist a Coordinator. The Directors shall assign the Michigan coordination number to all completed coordinationís, and verify the coordinators activities as being in strict accordance with these By-Laws and the Standards and Procedures. The Directors will assist the other officers in the proper conduct of the affairs of the MARC and perform such other duties as are customarily associated with the title of Director.

7.) Coordinator(s). It shall be the explicit duty of a Coordinator to assure that all coordination activities are conducted strictly within the literal written bounds of these By-Laws and the Standards and Procedures. The Coordinator(s) shall be appointed and/or removed at the discretion of a majority vote of the other officers of the Board of Directors. No more than two (2) Coordinators shall be appointed at any given time. If two are appointed, one shall be responsible for coordination activities regarding two-meters and down and the other shall be responsible for coordination activities above two meters in the ARS allocated frequencies. Coordinator(s) will be solely responsible for direct coordination/de-coordination activities conducted by MARC. While serving actively, the Coordinator(s) shall have full voting rights in the affairs of the Board of Directors. Coordinators shall have no defined term limits

7a. It shall be the explicit responsibility of each coordinator to assure the prompt delivery of current data and information to the Database manager as it becomes available for recording.

8.Database Manager. The database manager shall be solely responsible for maintaining accurate and up-to-date MARC coordination records in electronic and organized paper formats for the MARC. Electronic records must be backed up to a remote location at all times. The Database Manager shall be appointed and/or removed from office at the discretion of a majority vote of the other officers of the Board of Directors. While serving actively, the Database Manager shall have full voting rights in the affairs of the Board of Directors. The Database Manager shall have no defined term limits.

2.) Term of Office.

The term of office of all officers, except Immediate Past President, Coordinator(s) and Database Manager, shall be two (2) years, and further until replaced. The office of Immediate Past President, if filled, shall have a term of one (1) year. The term of office for elected officers shall begin on the first day of December in the year elected. The terms of office shall be staggeredóChairman, Secretary, and one (1) Director shall begin in even numbered years; Vice Chairman, Treasurer, and one (1) Director shall begin in odd numbered years. The office of Immediate Past President shall be filled by the outgoing President, if any, and shall have a term of one (1) year.

3.) Coordinator(s) and Database Manager shall have no defined term of office.

ARTICLE V - Appointed Position

1.) The Board of Directors shall appoint Full Members to such positions as may from time to time be needed in order to fulfill the purposes for which the MARC exists; these positions shall include, but not be limited to, Frequency Coordinator, Database Manager, and Newsletter Editor. The appointees shall serve at the pleasure of the Board of Directors and may be removed at any time, with or without cause, by majority vote of the Board of Directors. The appointees shall have their actions directed by such guidelines as the Board of Directors shall establish, and their actions shall be subject to review by the Board of Directors. Should an appointee resign, or a vacancy otherwise occur, the President shall appoint a Full Member to fill the position until the next meeting of the Board of Directors, at which time the Board of Directors shall appoint a Full Member to the position. The President shall review with each appointee in December of even numbered years whether the appointment should be continued and shall report to the Board of Directors before their next meeting the result of this review.

3. Database Manager.

> > The Database Manager shall assist the Frequency Coordinator

> (s) in the maintenance of the MARC's database of coordinationís and

> shall assist the Treasurer in maintenance of the MARC's mailing list.

> The Database Manager shall be responsible for (STRIKE OUT mailing and)

> receiving the annual operation reports of the repeaters coordinated

> by the MARC and such other related clerical duties as may from time

> to time be assigned by the Board of Directors. All records shall be

> made available for inspection by any member of the Board of Directors

> at any meeting and at such other times and places as the Board of