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June 2007


Update from the president:


I would like all to make sure they read this newsletter thoroughly. A lot of business will be conducted at our June meeting at the IRA Hudsonville Swap on the 2nd.


We have a proposed minor change to the By-Laws. That change is printed in the minutes as posted in this newsletter, as per our By-Laws:


ARTICLE X - Changes to These Bylaws


A.      Any provision of these Bylaws may be adopted or amended by the membership at any regular meeting, provided that:


1.   Such change or adoption shall have been moved, seconded, and carried at a regular meeting of the MARC preceding the regular meeting at which such change or adoption is finally determined;


2.  Such change or adoption, after having been carried by the membership once as provided in section 1 above, shall have been printed in the MARC newsletter or other written communication, transmitted by electronic means and/or USPS to all members and to the coordinating bodies for each State and Province bordering on Michigan, with an invitation for comment, at least 30 days prior to the regular meeting at which it is finally adopted (Such notice shall be deemed delivered when sent via First Class U.S. Mail or electronically to the address currently on record with the MARC.)


3.  That written comments made to the Officers of the MARC during while a matter is pending, whether by members or by representatives of the coordinating bodies of other States or Provinces, shall be reported upon to the membership for their consideration no later than at the regular meeting at which the matter is finally resolved.


All MARC members will have thirty days, if one wishes, to send in written comments to our Mt. Clemens PO Box.


During the June Meeting we will form a Nominations Committee to work on a slate for the elections in September for Vice-President, Treasurer, and one Director


Also be forewarned that after the September newsletter, MARC will publish only one newsletter a year and this will coincide with our Annual Meeting in Delta Township. All other newsletters will be published electronically.


Remember, your TDS is due yearly, but can go up to two years. Please help keep your information current in our Data Base.


Beginning with our September meeting all meetings will be in the Lansing. We will no longer move the meeting around to the state to the different quadrants. This is a centralized location and is convenient for all.


If anyone has any questions, you can reach the Board via the website, or my phone number is 586-465-7126.



Dennis, W8DFG



Treasurer’s Report:

For the Period: 02/28/07 to 03/31/07


MARC Funds balance on 02/28/07 was $3,948.96


Total income for the period was $ 61.34 from dues and interest. Total expense for the period was

$172.01 for the March Newsletter.


MARC Funds balance on 03/31/07 was $ 3,838.29


Respectfully Submitted

Dave Johnson, WD8DJB

MARC Treasurer


MARC Funds as of 02/28/2007










  Share Acct





  Money Market








 $   453.21








 $   3,948.96













  Dues 2007


 $     50.00






 $     11.34








 $       61.34













   February Newsletter

 $   172.01













 $    (172.01)







MARC Funds as of  03/31/2007










  Share Acct


 $      5.00



  Money Market








 $   331.20








 $   3,838.29





Date:  3/3/07


Meeting Place:  Elk’s Club, Midland  MI


Absent:  Ann Manor KT8F, Phil Manor W8IC


Meeting called to order by the President at:  1:00 PM


Since only the officers were present at this meeting the Minutes from previous meeting where not read. Motion to accept the minutes as printed in the newsletter made by Dan, N8WKM and 2nd by Jim, KB8IFE, motion carried.


Treasurer’s report provided by Dave Johnson, WD8DJB.  Motion to accept the report made by Dan, N8WKM and supported by Jim, KB8IFE, motion carried.


There was no correspondence.


Old business:


Ron, W8YUC inquired about K8COP’s request to move the Muskegon repeater. Dennis stated that he was having Jim, K8COP send in a revised TDS stating what type of antenna they where going to use. A copy of the propagation study was given to him. The Muskegon group could use either an omni at 200’ or a directional with a null to the south at 300’


Resolution #11 was brought back to the table by Phil, W8IC via of e-mail, that we look at the frequencies we picked for D-Star. After much discussion the Board amended Resolution #11 as follows with Jim, KB8IFE making the motion and  Jim, WB8AZP seconding the motion to add ten frequencies as primary channels for output, and to change the adjacent channel analog repeaters to 20 miles. Motion passed 5-1


Resolution #11 2 December 2006  as Amended 3 March 2007


That we begin allowing provisional coordination of Digital voice/data repeaters using the D-Star format. These provisional coordination’s will be placed into the current analog repeater sub-band on channels between existing analog repeaters. For

the purpose of the DOG the channels that will be used for experimentation will be:




145.480, 145.460, 145.440, 145.420, 145.400,

145.380, 145.360, 145.340, 145.320, 145.300,

147.010, 147.030, 147.050, 147.070, 147.090




444.0125, 444.0375, 444.0625, 444.0875, 444.1125


Repeater separation standards will be a minimum of 70 miles between co-channel repeaters. Adjacent channel spacing between digital repeaters will be left to experimentation, however spacing to adjacent channel analog repeaters will be no less

than 20 miles. Repeaters that are offered this provisional coordination may have those coordination’s changed as needed for the purpose of experimentation as we continue to learn about how the Digital Voice format will affect amateur repeater operation. Each person who is offered this provisional coordination will acknowledge that this provisional coordination does not offer protection under the DOG and that they are responsible to work to alleviate any and all interference complaints proven to be a result of the operation of the digital repeater. Each person will also acknowledge an understanding of the DOG as outlined by MARC By-Laws. Discussion followed, the motion passed.


Dan also suggested that we go back to check the dates on the existing resolutions so that they do not expire with out action being taken on them.


Ron W8YUC brought back on to the table from last month his proposal that Board members be exempt from paying dues. It was pointed out this would take a By-Laws change. Discussion followed and proposed change was approved to bring to the floor at the June meeting.


ARTICLE II - Membership and Dues


F. While in office a voting member of the Board will be exempt from paying annual dues during their term in office.


New business:


Dennis stated that following the June meeting that will be held at the Hudsonville Swap, all future meetings were going to be held at the Delta Twp. Fire Hall in the Lansing area.


Jim, KB8IFE brought up the subject of  "paper repeaters". He would like to make an attempt to track them down. Asked that anyone with knowledge of a repeater in his or her area that is not on the air, notify him at KB8IFE@miarc.com  so that he could check it out.


The cost of printing the newsletter was discussed. With the printing of the June and September newsletter MARC in the future will publish only a September newsletter to coincide with our Annual Meeting. All other quarterly newsletters will be published electronically.


Motion to adjourn the meeting made by Ron, W8YUC and 2nd by Jim, WB8AZP


Time 2:15 PM


Respectfully submitted,


Dennis W8DFG

As per tape recording



Next Meeting Saturday June 2nd 1:00 PM Location:


   Location:    I.R.A. Hamfest                                  More information on the hamfest can be found at:

                       Hudsonville Fairgrounds                   http://www.w8hvg.org

                       Hudsonville, MI


   Directions:  Follow I-196 (The Ford Freeway) (do not confuse this with I-96) to exit 62 (32nd Ave).

                        Go North on 32nd Ave to New Holland Street. Follow New Holland ˝ mile to 36th Ave.

                        Turn North on 36th and continue past Chicago Drive and the Railroad Tracks to Grant St.

                        Turn Left (West) on to Grant street to Park Avenue. Go South (right) on Park to Fairgrounds

                        Entrance. Talk in will be available on 147.160 Repeater.




MARC Officers                                                               Appointed Positions:

President:           Dennis Gaboury W8DFG

Frequency Coordinator 902MHz & up        Dan Thompson  N8WKM

Vice President:   Jim Maike KB8IFE

Frequency Coordinator 144MHz & down:   Dennis Gaboury  W8DFG

Secretary:           Ann Manor  KT8F

Frequency Coordinator 440MHz:               Jim Maike KB8IFE

Treasurer:           Dave Johnson  WD8DJB

Frequency Coordinator Links & Control:     Phil Manor  W8IC

Director:             Ron Gordon W8YUC

Database Manager:                                  Dave Johnson  WD8DJB

Director:             James Kvochick WB8AZP

Newsletter Editor                                      Dan Thompson  N8WKM


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