November 2001

WEB SITE: http://www.qsl.net/miarc                e-mail: miarc@yahoogroups.com


A short note from the Prez……….. 


Greetings one and all. First of all, our condolences to Wallace Murray and his family on the passing of his wife.  Our prayers and thoughts are with you.


Thanks to our Database Manager, we are slowly catching up with the renewal TDS’s.  It is a very time consuming job, so please be patient.


Congratulations to Jim Maike KB8IFE, Vice-President, Kelly Karpp KB8RWG, Treasurer, and Ron Gordon W8YUC, on their election to office at the September meeting in Lansing.  I would like to thank Joel Goldberg, our out going Treasurer, for all he has done for this organization.


The revision of the By-Laws finally got of the ground, and by the December meeting we will have some recommendations to make.  Once this is done we will start with the Standards and Procedures.


Just a reminder the December will be held in Oakland County at the EOC office on the 2nd. Directions will be in this newsletter, or log on to MARC’s website.  The locations for 2002 are as follows: March - Saginaw, June - Grand Rapids, September - Lansing, and at this time December is open.


If anyone has any questions, you can reach the Board via of the website, or my phone number is 586-465-7126.  For those of making the meeting on the 2nd, I’ll see you there.

73, Dennis, W8DFG President



Database Manager / Webmaster’s Corner 


The past quarter has seen a flurry of database updates.  I processed 111 renewal TDS’s in addition to the regular activities of recording dues, email, address and phone number changes.


I produced two updates of the web site Repeater Directory in addition to updates to the Meetings and Newsletter pages.


The latest Repeater Directory shows that just under half the 406 repeaters listed have an Annual Renewal Update TDS due.  Processed TDS's did take a bite, but older TDS have aged another 90 days and are now due for update.


I am currently working on TDS’s submitted this past August.  Once your TDS has been processed the database and the repeater directory will be updated and you will be back “in the black” for two years.


TDS Backlog statistics:


Website TDS Submissions in the queue:

· 51 Renewal/Modification Requests

· 49 New Coordination Requests

Paper TDS Submissions in the queue ( in my possession ):

 - 0 Renewal/Modification Requests

 - 0 New Coordination Requests



For those members that will be submitting Paper and Website TDS forms in the near future:


Please fill out your forms completely.  Please provide your repeater’s street address or the nearest crossroads.  If you are recording changes, mention them in the comments area of the online form or attach a note to the paper TDS.  As always, accurate and legible TDS forms make the process of updates go faster.


I logged 65 hours on MARC activities during the past two months.


Dave Johnson, WD8DJB



MARC. INC. The Minutes of the Annual Meeting

September 9, 2001


President Gaboury called the annual meeting of MARC INC. to order after 1pm at the Lions of Michigan Headquarters in Lansing Michigan. Only the elected officers were present.


  Old Business

Joel Goldberg W8HIU made a motion to accept the minutes as printed in the newsletter. Bill Kelly KC8DBG supported the motion and the motion carried.


Treasurer Joel Goldberg W8HIU presented the Treasurer’s Report. Bill Kelly KC8DBG made a motion to accept the report. Jim Maike KB8IFE supported the motion and the motion carried.


Secretary Ron Huber N8JAZ read the bylaw change in regard to eliminating the $4 filling fee. Joel GoldbergW8HIU made a motion to accept the change. Ron Gordon W8YUC supported the motion and the motion carried.




A motion was made by Kelly Karp KB8RWG to cast a unanimous ballot for Ron Gordon W8YUC as director. Jim Maike KB8IFE supported the motion and the motion carried.

Vice President

Jim Maike KB8IFE was elected Vice President by ballots cast.


No nominations for Treasurer were received. Bill Kelly KC8DBG made a motion to elect Kelly KarpKB8RWG as Treasurer by acclimation. Joel Goldberg W8HIU supported this motion. The motion passed.



New Business

 Jim Maike KB8IFE made a motion to close the MARC account at Oakland County Credit Union at the end of the term. Bill Kelly KC8DBG supported the motion. The motion carried. Kelly KB8RWG will check out where the group can get a good deal and advise Joel W8HIU.


At 1:40pm a motion by Joel W8HIU to adjourn was made. Supported by Kelly KB8RWG. Motion carried.



Marc Marc Board of Directors



Dennis Gaboury


P.O. Box 463148

Mt. Clemens, MI 48046

Vice President

Jim Maike



977 E. 8th St.   Box 27

White Cloud, MI  49349


Ron Huber


7135 Bradley Rd.

Saginaw, MI 48601


Joel Goldberg


6762 Red Cedar Lane

West Bloomfield, MI 48324

Immediate Past President

Kelly F. Karpp


4321 Bamfield Rd.

Glennie, MI  48737


Ron Gordon


7172 Sharp Rd.

Swartz Creek, MI  48473


Bill Kelly


17158 Hans Dr.

Fraser, Mi 48026




Wallace Murray


1403 S. Hill Rd.

Milford, MI 48381

Database Manager

Dave Johnson


2266 E. Vermontville Hwy

Charlotte, MI 48813





Membership Form




Name: _________________________________Call Sign: _______________________________

Address: __________________________________________ City: ________________________

State: _______________ Zip: _________________ Email: ________________________________

Day Phone: (___)________________________Night Phone: (___)_________________________

Club or Repeater Affiliation: _______________________________________________________

Check One [  ] Full Member ($15)   [  ] Associate Member ($7.50)

Newsletter [  ] Email or [  ] U.S. Mail.


Make checks out to MARC Inc.

Send to Joel Goldberg, W8HIU, 6762 Red Cedar Lane, West Bloomfield, MI. 48324



Please Remember to notify us of all email, USP address,

and area code / telephone number changes.



Upcoming Meeting Schedule


December 2, 2001


Pontiac E.O.C.

March 2002



June 2002

Grand Rapids

IRA Hamfest

September 2002



December 2002




Directions for December 2,2001 meeting at Oakland County Office of Emergency Management

 Note: ** indicates traffic light at this intersection


  From the North: Take Southbound I-75. Exit at Dixie Highway, US 24 exit #93. Proceed South to Telegraph Rd**. Right on Telegraph to 1st traffic light**. Right on County Center Drive West to Campus Drive South. (This road is on the left just before the next traffic light).  Left into parking lot. Building is on your right.  Park and enter at doorway marked Emergency Management.


  From the South:  Telegraph North past Elizabeth Lake Rd.** Continue to Pontiac Lake Rd.** Use right clover-leaf to make left turn. At next traffic light**, make right turn on to County Center Drive West. Take 1st road to right at Campus Drive South. (This road is on the left just before the next traffic light.) Left into parking lot. Building is on your right. Park and enter at doorway marked Emergency Management.


  From the East:

 Take M-59 through Pontiac to Telegraph Rd. Right on Telegraph and then follow the directions 'from the South’ above.


  From the West:

 East on M-59 to Telegraph Rd. Left turn (North) and follow directions 'from the South’ above.






Please use the website TDS if possible, rather than the TDS form below,

 to improve readability and speed up processing.




The website form will display a copy of what you submit

so you can print a copy for your files.



Michigan Area Repeater Council Technical Data Sheet


Action Requested

New Coordination___ Reassignment ___ Modify Existing Coordination___ Renewal Update___


System Type

_____ Repeater _____ One Way Link _____ Two Way Link _____ Multi Location Link


Frequency Information

Band: ___________ Output Freq.: ___________ Input Freq.: _________ Control Freq.: _______


System Status

In Operation: ______ Will Be On By: __________ Not Used (return to frequency pool) _______


Sponsorship (Sponsor is the holder of the coordination)

Sponsor: _________________________Trustee: ___________________Station Call: __________


System Owner: _____________________________________________________________


System Information

City Identified With System: _________________________________________Return Form To:

Geographic Area Served: ______________________________________          Wallace Murray

County (transmitter located): _________________________________________KE8HR

Repeater Address: _________________________________________________1403 S Hill Rd.

Location Of Receiver If Different Than Above: ___________________________ Milford,MI.48381

Coordinates To The Nearest Second: Latitude: ________________ Latitude________________

Ground Elevation Above Sea Level (AMSL): __________________

Ant Height Above Ground: __________Height Above Average Terrain (HAAT): _______________

Date system was originally coordinated: ______/_______/_______

Michigan Coordination number: ____________ ARRL Coordination number: _____________


Antenna & Power Information

Antenna Gain: ______ dB Omni Or Directional: _____ Bearing Of Ant (if directional) _______

Power To Antenna: ___________Watts E.R.P. In Watts: ___________________

Access Mode

____(O) Open _____(C) Closed ____(PL) CTCSS Freq.____ DTMF (T) ___ Digital (Y) ______

Do you want this Repeater listed in the ARRL Directory? Yes _____ No _____

Do you want your PL Tone/DTMF Access sequence Published? Yes_____ No _____


System Features

A= Auto patch CA= Closed Patch DS= Dual Squelch E= Emergency Power L= Linked P= Portable System PKT= Digital Packet Capability R/r = RACES

A/a = ARES X= Wide Area (requires Quadrant App) Y= RTTY/ASCII

z/Z= Direct Access To Police (911) WX = Weather Net

Your Features: ___________________________________________


Trustee Information

Name: _________________________________________Call sign: ______________________

Address: ________________ _______________ City: __________________State: ______

Zip Code: ________Day Phone (___)__________ Night (____)_________________

Email Address: ___________________________________________________________


I want to receive the MARC Newsletter by: Email Only ________ Regular Mail only _________


I certify that I have read and agree to abide by the MARC Standards and that the statements above are true, complete and correct to the best of my knowledge and belief.

Signature: __________________________________________ Date: __________________






This form explains how to fill out the MARC TDS form. It does not cover every box/line. This is to be filed only by a licensed amateur radio operator. The person filling out this form should be the Trustee of the repeater; the trustee normally is the control operator and has sole responsibility for all correspondence with the MARC.

This form must be complete and all appropriate boxes checked.



I Check New Coordination for a frequency not currently assigned to you or when requesting an additional link frequency, to change location, ERP, antenna height, or any other operation that will change the technical parameters of the system. Explain the modification desired in the Comments area.

2. Check Modify Existing Coordination for a change in call sign, Trustee, access mode or system features.

3. Check Renewal Update when making the required two-year update of the MARC inc. files


SYSTEM TYPE: Check only one box in this section, Use an individual form for each component such as a transmitter, link, system, or remote receivers.



1. For a New Coordination, indicate the desired band only.

All other actions require entering coordinated frequency data.


SYSTEM STATUS: Proposed if new coordination or when modifying existing coordination.

Will Be On By and enter date if system has been off for some reason. All other boxes in this section are self explanatory. Return to Freq. Pool if you no longer need your currently assigned frequency.


SPONSORSHIP: The sponsor is the actual holder of the coordination. Enter sponsor name, club or organization.



1. Geographic Area Served Please use the 4 quadrant indicator NE, NW, SE, SW given 1-75, US-27, & US-127 as the north/south line and 46 as the east/west line.

2. Note Location of Receiver if different from the transmitter location,

Coordinates provide the Latitude and Longitude to nearest second. (Required) Entries with double zeros in the seconds position are not acceptable. The AMSL and COORDINATES are derived from a USGS 7 2 minute quadrangle map or GPS device.

Exact Location: this is the address where the repeater is located.


ANTENNA & POWER INFORMATION: Please note the Power to Antenna does not refer to transmit power out of the transmitter, but to the actual power that reaches the feed point of the antenna, there are significant power losses in duplexers


TRUSTEE INFORMATION: Enter name and call sign of individual in control of the repeater.

Station Call is the call sign on the repeater ID.




For further information please visit our web site at http://www.qsl.net/miarc

Or email us at miarc@yahoogroups.com



Mailing Address



P.O.Box 463148

Mt. Clemens, MI 48046