MICHIGAN AREA REPEATER COUNCIL NEWSLETTER

WEB SITE: http://www.qsl.net/miarc        e-mail: miarc@yahoogroups.com

 Special Edition October 2003

 

 

Minutes September Meeting

Delta Township, MI

Minutes from MARC Meeting September 7, 2003

Meeting called to order by President Dennis Gaboury at 1:00 PM.

 

Meeting called to order by President Dennis Gaboury at 1:00PM.

 

A Quorum was present. Board member absent, Secretary Richard Ranta. After introductions the minutes from the previous session were read, a motion was made to accept the minutes as read, by Kelly Karpp, seconded by Ron Gordon, motion passed.

 

Treasurer Kelly Karpp read the treasurer's report. $5328.37 in savings, $535.42 in checking. Detailed list available for anyone's interest. Motion made Ron Gordon to accept report as read, seconded by Bruce Winchell, motion passed.

 

No correspondence.

 

Old Business:

Dan Thompson N8WKM presented the SERA Band plan for 900MHz to the Board. Dan recommended that we adopt this band plan due to the fact the ARRL does not go into detail for assigning repeater pairs, etc., etc. After much discussion, Kelly Karpp/seconded by Dan Thompson made a motion, that under the DOG, we use the SERA 900 Mhz Band Plan as a guide for coordinating repeaters. Motion passed. If further information is required go to http://www.sera.org

 

It was brought up Dave Johnson and Bruce that 32% of the coordinated Repeaters in the Lower Peninsula are two years or more past due with their TDS's. A good portion of that 32% is three years or more. Motion made by Bruce/ seconded by Kelly, that the funds be made available to send out a full mailing with a notice of possible de- coordination if current TDS's are not filed. Motion passed.

 

De-coordinations will commence, using the authority given the Coordinator in Section I, Paragraph F, Sub-Paragraph 1 of the MARC Standards:

 

Minutes Continued on Page 2

 

Loss of Coordination Pending

 

The MARC Database Manager has reported that 32% of all coordinated repeaters are now in a delinquent reporting status. This is inexcusable, and a Zero Tolerance policy is now in effect regarding keeping all bi-annual TDS reports current.

 

A list of repeater coordinations that have been placed in a MARC de-coordination project is included in this newsletter. The reason for each one of them being on this list is Serious Reporting Delinquency. It is our goal to clear this list within the next 90 days.

 

There is only one possible way to be removed from this list: Send in a current, complete TDS report, and do it very soon.

 

If a proper TDS report is not received within thirty days of the publication of this newsletter, the Coordinator has been instructed by the Board of Directors to begin decoordinating this list beginning with those that are the most overdue. He has been further instructed to revoke all remaining delinquent coordinations on the list by January 1, 2004; using the authority given the Coordinator in Section I, Paragraph F, Sub-Paragraph 1 of the MARC Standards:

 

"1. If updates (from the system sponsor) are not received a minimum of ONCE PER TWO YEARS, the (M.A.R.C.) Coordinator MAY WITHDRAW THE COORDINATION AUTHORIZATION."

 

All decoordinated frequency pairs will be returned to the frequency pool for reassignment.

 

SPONSORS, BE AWARE that the ultimate responsibility for these filing these reports lies with the Sponsor, as the actual holder of a coordination. While your listed Trustee is our primary contact person, and most Trustees do file the necessary reports, some of them don't do it. Your Trustee does not hold ultimate responsibility for assuring that reports are kept current, you do.

 

Dennis Gaboury

President

 

 

 

 

(Minutes Continued from page 1)

 

"1. If updates (from the system sponsor) are not received a minimum of ONCE PER TWO YEARS, the (M.A.R.C.) Coordinator MAY WITHDRAW THE COORDINATION AUTHORIZATION."

All de-coordinated frequency pairs will be returned to the frequency pool for reassignment.

 

Next order of business: Elections. Those running for office are as follows. Vice-President: R. Bruce Winchell, Treasurer: Kelly Karpp, Director: Ron Gordon. Nominations were opened up, with none from the floor or absentee ballots, and the secretary absent, the President made a motion, seconded by Dave Johnson that a unanimous vote be cast. Motion passed. For record, two absentee ballots were cast.

 

Next meeting December 7th to be held in the Battle Creek area. Deadline for the newsletter is November 1.

 

Dave Johnson/Ron Gordon made a motion to close the meeting at 2:23PM. Motion passed.

Minutes taken by Bruce Winchell, typed by Dennis Gaboury.

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Message From the Coordinator

 

I am very glad that we finally have a basic band plan for narrow-band 900mhz to work with. Hopefully, we will soon see the same thing with 2.5 ghz.  Seeing as this band plan was instituted under the Developmental Operating Guidelines (DOG), put in place in June, all coordinations in this band will be issued on a provisional basis, with no time limit, but it will give you the full protections of coordination. The band plan will be subject to change over the next three years as limits, problems and procedures are discovered and experimented with, and we have to keep everything flexible until it is fully developed and finalized by a vote of the membership. Congratulations and thanks for the help from all those who had input into this project. You did a lot of careful research and a great job.

 

Anyone who has an interest in the 900mhz band should probably contact dan@waycom.com. Dan appears to be the spiritual leader of the group that is experimenting and he can tell you more about equipment, costs, known issues and pitfalls better than the Coordinator can.

 

DUES NOTICE

 

We are approaching the time of year when membership dues ($10.00) begin to be renewed. We need to clear up some confusion before it happens again.

 

The MARC membership year is from January to January. If you paid MARC dues in July of 2003, it does not mean that your dues are paid until July of 2004. They are only paid until January 1, 2004. It gets confusing in the last quarter of every year, because people forget to put what year they are paying dues for on their checks or in an attached note. BE SURE YOU PUT THE YEAR THAT YOU WISH TO PAY DUES FOR ON YOUR CHECK. If you do not put this information on your check, and you are not on record as having paid 2003 dues, your check will be applied to 2003 dues instead of 2004. We're almost sure you did not intend to pay for just 2 or 3 months of 2003, (some people do want to do that) but we follow standard accounting procedures that dictate that dues money received must be applied to the year in which it is received, unless otherwise specified by the sender.

 

 

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Treasurers Report

 

September 06, 2003

 

Funds on hand as of September 06 2003

       Savings:       $5,328.37

       Checking:          535.42

       Total Funds:  $5,863.79

 

Income

   Dues: 06/01/03 – 09/06/03

                                      06/08/03    $70.00

                                      09/03/06      60.00

                                      09/06/03      20.00

 

    Dividend (Checking)   07/01/03     0.62

    Dividend ( Savings)     07/01/03   12.30

    Total Income                                 162.92

 

Expenses:

      State of Michigan 08/05/03      $ 10.00

      Newsletter (Waycom)                274.74

      Total Expenses                           284.74

 

Submitted by Kelly Karp KB8RWG Treasurer

 

Current De-Coordination List

Frequency

Repeater

City

145.330

K8DO

Hemlock

444.400

K8EX

Grand Rapids

443.200

K8IF

Brighton

444.900

K8IHY

Grand Rapids

444.425

K8KWH

Brighton

51.720

K8KZO

Kalamazoo

147.040

K8KZO

Kalamazoo

444.875

K8KZO

Kalamazoo

146.760

K8PA

Alpena

146.960

K8PBA

Ann Arbor

443.600

K8RAU

Southfield

52.640

K8RUR

Novi

145.170

K8RUR

Northville

146.920

K8RUR

Ypsilanti

224.880

K8SG

Grand Rapids

146.820

K8WNJ

Muskegon

224.900

K8WQB

Hanover

444.175

K8WQB

Hanover

146.680

KA8BOG

Howell

443.000

KA8CSH

Oxford

146.880

KA8PZP

Bad Axe

224.540

KB6WJ

Paw Paw

224.840

KB6WJ

Glenwood

444.975

KB6WJ

Paw Paw

147.200

KB8CRR

Paw Paw

444.225

KB8SEM

Hastings

224.600

KB8TI

Vermontville

442.325

KB8UB

Munith

51.900

KB8VLU

Norvell

444.900

KB8WWE

Port Huron

443.400

KC8BXI

Bridgeport

146.500

KC8CAR

Saginaw

444.675

KC8CAR

Saginaw

29.620

KC8HIG

Petersburg

52.780

KC8HIG

Petersburg

224.040

KC8HIG

Petersburg

442.200

KC8HIG

Petersburg

147.240

KC8ITU

Allegan

921.000

KC8SE

Jackson

52.960

KD8PA

Lansing

442.425

KD8PA

Lansing

444.025

KE4PM

Berrien Springs

443.025

KG8XS

Farwell

444.350

KQ8G

Dearborn

442.225

KV8G

Livonia

Frequency

Repeater

City

146.920

N8ACL

Fremont

443.125

N8ACL

Fremont

442.575

N8AES

Lake Orion

145.490

N8BIT

White Lake Twp

224.080

N8BIT

Clarkston

442.000

N8BJZ

St Clair Shores

442.650

N8CCV

Southfield

444.075

N8DAN

Paw Paw

443.325

N8DXG

Detroit

444.525

N8FVF

Howell

443.325

N8HVZ

Blanchard

224.120

N8ISK

Westland

442.850

N8IYX

Three Rivers

444.825

N8IYX

Oshtemo

1253.250

N8JAT

Saginaw

224.700

N8KQQ

Muskegon

442.950

N8KQQ

Muskegon

444.750

N8KRF

Lansing

51.880

N8LBJ

Milford

224.620

N8LBJ

Milford

145.470

N8LFR

Bad Axe

51.740

N8MCD

Romeo

443.525

N8MCD

Romeo

147.040

N8MQW

South Lyon

224.500

N8NYQ

Troy

442.175

N8NYQ

Royal Oak

146.500

N8QOP

Higgins Lake

52.620

N8RLA

Hanover

224.260

N8RLA

Hanover

224.420

N8SCY

Lewiston

443.850

N8TSJ

Saranac

1253.250

N8UDK

Clawson

1282.400

N8UDK

Clawson

442.825

N8UXR

Mt Pleasant

443.550

N8VPZ

Cassopolis

147.300

N8VVG

Traverse City

224.580

N8WB

Inkster

442.875

N8XCW

Davison

51.960

N8YTT

East China

146.500

N8ZFX

Bangor

146.800

NA8I

Port Huron

444.800

NC8H

Novi

145.450

NT8F

Chelsea

 

 

 

 

 

 

Frequency

Repeater

City

146.980

NT8F

Chelsea

443.575

NT8F

Chelsea

443.650

NW8Z

Troy

444.825

W8BYB

Livonia

52.760

W8DC

Grand Rapids

146.760

W8DC

Grand Rapids

147.260

W8DC

Grand Rapids

224.640

W8DC

Grand Rapids

442.350

W8FSM

Fenton

146.680

W8GQN

Stutsmanville

52.680

W8HD

West Bloomfield

444.500

W8JWC

Kalamazoo

146.880

W8JXN

Jackson

146.620

W8LAP

Lapeer

224.880

W8LAP

Lapeer

442.750

W8LAP

Lapeer

442.275

W8MAI

Sister Lakes

1255.000

W8MNT

Ann Arbor

1255.250

W8MNT

Ann Arbor

224.380

W8PGW

Ann Arbor

443.500

W8PGW

Ann Arbor

224.740

W8PMN

Canton

442.025

W8TVC

Traverse City

224.340

W8UHW

Ann Arbor

224.200

W8WQ

Berkley

442.550

WA1APX

Romeo

443.875

WA1LRL

Brighton

52.820

WA6HBT

Detroit

443.750

WA8CTY

Higgins Lake

444.850

WA8RZJ

St Johns

442.700

WA8SEL

Farmington Hills

51.880

WB8INH

Clio

444.375

WB8INH

Mayville

146.800

WB8VWK

Edmore

444.825

WB8WIV

Cadillac

441.125

WB8WKA

Detroit

52.980

WD8BVL

Battle Creek

224.160

WD8IEL

Chelsea

147.060

WD8JOO

Hillsdale

443.300

WD8KAF

Coldwater

444.700

WD8NQB

Edmore

443.800

WD8PFP

Waterford

442.450

WK8Z

Frankenmuth

443.825

WN8G

Pontiac

224.760

WN8VOT

Almont

 

MARC Current 902Mhz Provisional Bandplan

 

 

902.0000 - 902.2875    SSTV, FAX, ACSSB, Experimental

902.2125 - 902.4625    Auxiliary FM Duplex Link Input Frequency Pairs

902.4875 - 902.7250    FM Rpt Inputs (25 MHz duplex split, 12.5 KHz spacing)

902.7375 - 903.0500    EME Exclusive

903.0700 - 903.0800    CW Beacons

903.1000                      CW, SSB Calling Frequency

903.4000 - 903.6000    Cross Band Linear Translator Inputs

903.6000 - 903.8000    Cross Band Linear Translator Outputs

903.8000 - 904.0000    Experimental Beacons Exclusive

904.0000 - 906.0000    Digital Communications

906.0000 - 907.0000    Narrow Band FM Simplex (25 KHz channels)

906.5000                      National Calling Frequency

907.0000 - 910.0000    FM Repeater Inputs

910.0000 - 916.0000    ATV

916.0000 - 918.0000    Digital Communications

918.0000 - 919.0000    Narrow Band FM Control Links/Remote Bases

919.0000 - 922.0000    FM Repeater Outputs

927.0125 - 927.9875    Auxiliary Simplex Link Frequencies

927.2125 - 927.4625    Auxiliary FM Duplex Link Input Frequency Pairs

927.4875 - 927.7250    FM Rpt Outputs (25 MHz duplex split, 12.5 KHz spacing)

927.7375 - 927.7875    FM Voice Simplex Channels  

922.0000 - 928.0000    Wideband Experimental, ATV, Simplex, Spread

 

32 Auxiliary Simplex Link Frequencies

Specific Vertical or Horizontal Antenna Polarization Required

12.5 KHz spacing between channels

 

Vertical

Horizontal

927.0125     927.0375    927.0625

927.0875     927.1125    927.1375

927.1625     927.1875    927.8000

927.8250     927.8500    928.8750    

927.9000     927.9250    927.9500

927.7500

 

927.0250    927.0500    927.0750

927.1000    927.1250    927.1500

927.1750    927.2000    927.8125

927.8375    927.8625    927.8875

927.9125    927.9375    927.9625

927.9875

 

22 Auxiliary Duplex Link Frequency Pairs

Specific Vertical or Horizontal Antenna Polarization Required

12.5 KHz spacing between channels with 25 MHz Duplex in/out

Vertical

Horizontal

902.2125 - 927.2125

902.2375 - 927.2375

902.2500 - 927.2500

902.2500 - 927.2500

902.2875 - 927.2875

902.3125 - 927.3125

902.3250 - 927.3250

902.3500 - 927.3500

902.3625 - 927.3625

902.3875 - 927.3875

902.4000 - 927.4000

902.4250 - 927.4250

902.4375 - 927.4375

902.4625 - 927.4625

902.4750 - 927.4750

 

902.2250 - 927.2250      

902.2625 - 927.2625   

902.3000 - 927.3000       

902.3375 - 927.337       

902.3750 - 927.3750       

902.4125 - 927.4125

902.4500 - 927.4500       

20 FM Repeater Pairs

12.5 KHz spacing between channels, 25 MHz Offset

 

 

902.4875 - 927.4875        902.5000 - 927.5000        902.5125 - 927.5125        902.5250 - 927.5250

902.5375 - 927.5375        902.5500 - 927.5500        902.5625 - 927.5625        902.5750 - 927.5750

902.5875 - 927.5875        902.6000 - 927.6000        902.6125 - 927.6125        902.6250 - 927.6250

902.6375 - 927.6375        902.6500 - 927.6500        902.6625 - 927.6625        902.6750 - 927.6750

902.6875 - 927.6875        902.7000 - 927.7000        902.7125 - 927.7125        902.7250 - 927.7250

 

29 FM Repeater Pairs

100 KHz spacing between channels, 12 MHz Offset

 

907.100 - 919.100        907.200 - 919.200

 907.300 - 919.300        907.400 - 919.400   

907.500 - 919.500        907.600 - 919.600       

907.700 - 919.700        907.800 - 919.800

907.900 - 919.900        908.000 - 920.000       

908.100 - 920.100        908.200 - 920.200

908.300 - 920.300        908.400 - 920.400      

 908.500 - 920.500        908.600 - 920.600

908.700 - 920.700        908.800 - 920.800       

908.900 - 920.900        909.000 - 921.000

909.100 - 921.100        909.200 - 921.200       

909.300 - 921.300        909.400 - 921.400

909.500 - 921.500        909.600 - 921.600      

 909.700 - 921.700        909.800 - 921.800

909.900 - 921.900   

 

SERA FM Voice Simplex Channels

(for use with 25 MHz duplex offset radios)

 

927.7375

927.7500   SERA Local Calling Frequency

927.7625

927.7750

927.7875

 

National “Traditional” FM Voice Simplex Channels

(also for use with 25 MHz duplex offset radios)

 

906.0000 to 907.0000 MHz - channel every 25 KHz

 

906.500 - National Calling Frequency

 

Digital Packet Simplex Channels

 

904.000 to 906.000 MHz - channel every 25 KHz

916.000 to 918.000 MHz - channel every 25 KHz

 

 

This is a reminder to all repeater Trustees, TDS’ are due every two years. If you do not know the current status of the TDS on your repeater please see http://www.qsl.net/miarc/repeater_directory.html to see the status of your repeater. Also, if you would like a nice way to find your HAAT data as well as create a coverage map for your repeater please see http://www.cplus.org/rmw/english1.html for information about

Radio Mobile. The learning curve is high, but well worth the effort.

 

MARC Board of Directors

 

President

Dennis Gaboury

W8DFG

P.O. Box 463148

Mt. Clemens, MI 48046

Vice President

Open

 

 

Secretary

Richard Ranta

K8JX

 

Treasurer

Kelly F. Karpp

KB8RWG

PO Box 127

Oscoda, MI  48750

Director

Open

 

 

Director

Ron Gordon

W8YUC

7172 Sharp Rd.

Swartz Creek, MI 48473

Frequency

Coordinator

Bruce Winchell

N8UT

 

Database Manager

Dave Johnson

WD8DJB

2266 E. Vermontville Hwy

Charlotte, MI 48813

 

 

  

Upcoming Meetings:

 

December 2003          Kalamazoo/Battle Creek – Location to be announced

 

A Short Note From the Editor.

 

If you would like your comments included in the newsletter please email them to dan@waycom.com. Obviously I can only include what will fit into the newsletter. Please also note that the MARC also maintains an email address for communication concerning MARC business as well as a P.O Box for you to send USPS mail. The email address is miarc@yahoogroups.com and the USPS address can be found on the label of this mailing.

 

 

 

2003 Election Results

 

All nominees ran unopposed. Elected to office were:

 

                                             R. Bruce Winchell               Frequency Coordinator

                                             Kelly Karp                           Treasurer

                                             Ron Gordon                         Director