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Please notice the instructions for the March electronic meeting.
MARC is still very busy with coordination activities. I have four applications for two meters on a waiting list and in the middle of seven active 440 applications. There are no 440 apps on the waiting list at this time, however, there will be a delay in processing any new 440 applications until I catch up a bit.
Dan, N8WKM, is busy with 220 and 900 coordinations, as well as publishing the MARC newsletter. Jeff, KB8SXK, is seeing a lot of out-state requests for clearance. Dan and I are keeping Jim, K8JK, busy issuing MINO numbers for new or modified coordinations, and Bob N8ZCC, has done a lot to clean up the database by contacting repeater trustees who are delinquent on their renewal TDS submissions. As always, Dave, WB8DJB, is busy keeping up the database and website, as well keeping up with his treasurerís duties.
I also want to thank Ann, KT8F, our secretary and my better half for the massive support allowing me to get the MARC work done. (And editing my spelling and grammar).
Other issues that MARC will need to deal with include a requirement to have CTCSS and/or a digital code access for all coordinated repeaters. Other states are now requiring this for cross-coordination clearance. This will be required for all new coordinations in Michigan. In the future, once a plan is in place, hopefully, all existing coordinated repeaters will make the programming change to eliminate some of the unnecessary interference caused by identical, or no tone or code engaged on a repeater.
There is also the problem of the ARRL repeater directory. It has become an issue because the ARRL is now using a private company to handle, publish and use for profit, databases that are being submitted to them. This year, MARC is not submitting what is considered private information on Michigan coordinated repeaters to a private, for profit, company. This will be worked out over 2017.
Your comments on any of these issues to firstname.lastname@example.org are encouraged.
73, Phil W8IC
Electronic Meeting Information:
The Mar 4, meeting is an Electronic Meeting at 1:00pm!
PHONE BRIDGE ONLY:
Use this ONLY if you are only using the phone.
WEBMEETING & Phone Bridge:
Using your web browser
Participation in the webmeeting is only needed for things like slideshow
presentations, or use of a whiteboard where someone may need to do an illistration.
It also allows us the opportunity to display the actual text of a motion for everyone
to read. If you are unable to participate in the webmeeting you may still join in
on the phone bridge from wherever you are.
As many of you are aware from our posts to the email lists earlier, there are some issues with the ARRL Repeater Directory this year that have caused us (the MARC Board) to have some concerns about releasing data this year.
Without getting into details, the ARRL has notified the coordinators that they would no longer be publishing the repeater directory. While they previously had the repeater directory available online for people who had purchased that years repeater directory, they have chosen to give the data to an outside source to post online where it will require a subscription to access.
There is much confusion at this point, and at this time we still do not have straight answers. I have contacted one of our area ARRL representatives and have not heard anything back yet. The confusion stems on a couple of parts because there was much assumed rather than to have a discussion prior to making the decisions that were made, and also by not providing information and details about the changes until very late.
As a result of this, the MARC Board has decided not to forward our current data to the ARRL or their agent. Any data that they choose to publish for Lower Michigan will be old data. There is currently no method in place for the coordinators to flush and/or old data. The ouside source is also allowing public input without providing a way for us (MARC) to correct the data or remove it, nor have they provided a distinction between coordinated or not coordinated entries.
Ultimately, they also told us that we needed to provide coordinates for the repeaters as they want to sell a service to work with their application (subscription). At this time, we do not have permission to release that information to them until we re-word the bylaws and standards to allow this. Additionally, we also considered that people may have repeaters located in places where they would prefer the information not be disclosed.
This is certain to be a topic at the next meeting, and we would like to hear from the membership about this issue. Some people have sent in their comments via email. Along with changes that MARC will need to make to accomodate the new publication, we also will need to look at adding a way for the repeater owners to let us know if they do or do not want their information published.
Dan Thompson, N8WKM
MARC Meeting Minutes
Date: December 3, 2016
Meeting called to order by Phil at: 1:05 PM.
The minutes from the Sept 10, 2016 were read by Ann.
Corrections to the minutes are as follows: Dave stated
that the MARC emails are stored on the MARC computer,
not his own. Also, 2 different adjournment times were
listed, 3:07 and 1:47. The correct time was 1:47 PM.
Treasurerís report provided by Dave. Motion to accept the report made by Dan, supported by Jeff KB8SXK, vote taken, motion carried.
No old Business.
Dan discussed his experience of attending a multi-state coordinator conference in Wisconsin. He shared information regarding rule changes that other states are considering, Database sharing between states was also discussed, Possible solutions to various problems were presented as well as a discussion about channel width and coordination by predicted coverage. MARC will look into these issues and watch the progress in the adjoining states, especially Wisconsin and Illinois. Changes in the MARC standards will not occur without normal quarterly MARC meetings, where input from the general Michigan Amateur Radio community is welcomed. Comments are encouraged to email@example.com as well. Some of the benefits of a change in coordination requirements would include the ability to coordinate more repeaters where there are currently no available pairs.
Congratulations were given to Bob and Jeff, our newest volunteers, on the excellent work that they are doing for MARC.
Motion to adjourn made by Dan, seconded by Jeff, motion carried. Meeting adjourned at 2:33 PM.
Note: The March meeting will be conducted electronically on Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 1:00 PM. .
Ann Manor, KT8F, Recording Secretary
MARC Funds balance on 11/30/2016 was $ 4,896.95
MARC Funds as of 11/30/2016
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Marc Funds as of 02/28/2017
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|MARC Officers||Appointed Positions|
|President: Phil Manor W8IC||Frequency Coordinator 902MHz: & up Dan Thompson N8WKM|
|Vice President: Dan Thompson N8WKM||Frequency Coordinator 440MHz: Phil Manor W8IC|
|Secretary: Ann Manor KT8F||Frequency Coordinator Links & Control: Phil Manor W8IC|
|Treasurer: Dave Johnson WD8DJB||Frequency Coordinator: Bob Walchli N8ZCC|
|Director: Jeff Oberg KB8SXK||Database Manager: Dave Johnson WD8DJB|
|Director: James Kvochick K8JK||Newsletter Editor: Dan Thompson N8WKM|